Thursday, 8 March 2012

The baby gender post

Image from What Calico Did Next, Via the amazing blog Blue Milk

I mentioned in our 'Half way there' post that we didn't find out the sex of the baby, and promised i'd explain more in another post. It took a while (forgive me, sleeping, eating and obsessive baby relating Pinterest activity took precedence...)  but here we go.  I find the obsession with my babies genitals odd.  The sex is often the first question people ask when they discover I'm pregnant. Some love that we're keeping it a surprise but for others, the ambiguity of the gender seems to cause anxiety- almost as if without knowing the gender, they don't know how to react 'properly' to it, so the sooner its born and the sooner the sex is announced the sooner everyone can put it neatly into its little box. We're acquiring most of the clothes for our baby second hand, and on the odd occasion that I have wondered into baby shops, I have found it perplexing and annoying when they are divided into 'girls' and 'boys' clothes. Does anyone else find it odd that we force gender stereotypes onto even new born babies? Pink cards with teddies and princesses, blue balloons with tractors and trains. And people so quickly fall into saying 'isnt she cute/pretty/gorgeous!' to baby girls and 'Isnt he big/strong/a little bruiser!' to baby boys. Its so ingrained in our culture that I'm sure we don't even recognise ourselves doing it sometimes, I know that I've been guilty of doing this in the past, but now try very hard not too.

So why does this matter?  Me and my mister decided not to find out the gender because we think it will help us to prepare for the baby in a less stereotypical Pink or Blue way (and because there are very few things in life that are genuine surprises and this has got to be the best, no?!)  I don't question that girls and boys are inherently different. I  believe that they are. But I do know that those gender differences are exaggerated by societal norms that tend to push both to their extremes with very little room for anything in between.  If little girls are constantly told how pretty, cute and gorgeous they are, its no wonder that so many grow up thinking that the way they look is the most, and sometimes only, valuable thing about them. In my experience (and the experiences of those around me) its gender stereotypes that contribute to men feeling unable to express emotion or display an interest in appearance without being labelled as 'Gay' (don't get me started on the use of 'Gay' as an insult...) They lead to men feeling 'unmasculine' if they aren't the breadwinners.  Its gender stereotypes that lead to so many women hating their bodies, that lead to women doing the majority of the housework and caring - meaning they are less able to develop their own interests and careers and far more likely to earn less money than men. Its also gender stereotypes that lead to women being blamed for wearing short skirts in rape cases, rather than men being blamed for raping them. I'm not saying that all gender inequality stems from what colour cardigan you put your baby in when its born!  Its just that this particular issue threw some interesting stuff up for me and my mister, and our friends, that I thought i'd elaborate on here.

The strongest, but by no means only, influence on the way that children understand gender comes from the parents, who either overtly or covertly pass on to their children their own beliefs about gender. My mister and I have chosen to challenge traditional gender roles as much as possible in our marriage, sharing housework (crucial, in our opinion),  (future) childcare, and money earning. But we are inherently different. He is much stronger than me physically. I enjoy wearing pretty dresses and he likes woodwork and doesn't care as much as me about his appearance. And I think that whilst many of these differences should be challenged, others should be celebrated. So I know that our baby will probably conform eventually to one or the other, because 'monkey see, monkey do'.

But, even if my sons are car obsessed football lovers,  I would dearly like them to feel comfortable with expressing emotion, to do an equal share of housework and childcare. To become equality-loving men. And I'd dearly like to raise my daughters, even if they do end up loving all things Pink plastic Princess, to be strong leaders, understand that their identity and value does not reside solely in their body shapes, know that its not true that just because they are female that they'll never be any good at maths or be intrinsically better at  nurturing. As a family, I hope that my daughters and I will be building stuff, learning to make fires and climbing trees, that my mister and sons can be excited about what they wear, feel confident in being caring and sensitive and enjoy whipping up extraordinary concoctions in the kitchen.


We have no problem with other parents discovering the sex, we just think that for us this will really help us to continue on the path that we've tried to walk with this gender malarkey.  And I'll let you know how it goes, who knows, I may well be back here in a couple of months/years eating my words, but as naive new parents-to-be we are going to have a damn good go at it. I'd love to hear the thoughts of parents and non parents alike too.

P.S Happy International Women's day! A post about baby gender seemed appropriate somehow.

P.P.S Pop day is getting frighteningly close now. Eek!

P.P.S I am over the moon, smitten, and already completely loved up about the fact that I am going to be an auntie! Ray is having a baby, which means our babies will only be 6 months apart. I put a great deal of importance on the role of auntie's and cousins as both are so important to me, so I cant tell you how excited I am!

23 comments:

  1. A lovely post! My parents kept my gender a secret until i was born and decorated my bedroom in 'neutral' colours, and i think i would do the same, it will be fantastic to have that surprise at the end of your pregnancy.

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  2. Thank you, we are also decorating and preparing in a gender neutral way. Although that does not mean white and beige! We have gone for pretty bright colours. (theres another post coming on the results of our nesting and crafting actually- when I can be bothered to take some pictures!)

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  3. I used to enjoy dressing my baby daughter in her brothers hand me downs, because people would always refer to her as 'he' - ie 'He's a strapping lad' type comments. Really they were just being friendly and trying to make conversation I expect and babies with no hair and big chubby cheeks could be either gender, but it amused me! My daughter loves a pretty dress now but is just as at home snail racing and digging a pit...

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  4. I have two boys and didn't find out either time. It was so exciting, not knowing! It's nice to have that surprise to look forward to after going through the birth!!! Good luck!! I'm very excited for you both!! Boy or girl...they'll be loved! xx

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  5. An amazing post Hannah, thanks for the food for thought, and so fitting for international women's day.

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  6. Thanks for a great post. Us too - we didn't find out until she popped out. I understand why people do find out but for us it was part of the fun. I enjoy dressing her in a mixture of new stuff and hand me downs from boys and girls. It can be really hard finding stuff that isn't pink without spending a fortune - the cheaper, the pinker (apart from ASDA, would you believe?!) When I was a kid in the 70s/80s I wore plenty of gender neutral clothes and nobody batted an eyelid. Now it causes a few raised eyebrows and the default assumption seems to be that she's a boy if she's not in pink/a dress. I have been known to pretend she is 'cause I can't be arsed correcting someone. And wait until you try to find a non-pink/blue toothbrush/cup/pair of shoes. I say bugger it. Our rainbow-coloured washing line is certainly more cheerful than it used to be. And if we have a boy in the future I won't have to buy a load more stuff. In a couple of years she'll be asking for pink everything so I may as well enjoy it while I can!

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  7. My parents did what you did, I did end up wearing pink tracksuits, which I got wonderfully muddy playing football :) I also had little toy cars whilst my sister was dolly obsessed! You did good, and you will continue doing good, just always have faith in human nature and whether your child is a girl or a boy, the only things essential are health, happiness and just treatment to those around them.

    Best of luck to you both, you'll make wonderful parents... 2 weeks!! X

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  8. You know one of my favourite things to say to my Young Prince (usually when we are having a hairy moment, I might add) - "Can you please go and get your manual... you know the one... it came with you when you were born... big thick book, popped out just after the placenta" - of course by now he sees this comment comment coming and has even been known to grab a Jamie Oliver recipe book and sarcastically hand it to me saying ... "Of course Mum, here it is ... todays issue can be resolved with the solution on page 33 - Chocolate Mudcake" - I hasten to add we don't have many of these hairy moments - I am truly blessed with a loving, sensitive, affectionate teenage boy... and I TOTALLY AGREE with you... Challenging gender roles in a loving and open minded way is such a wonderful catalyst for positive, evolutionary, accepting and monumental change. Letting our children know that they should take pride in helping around the house, getting dirty doing hard manual labour, choosing haircuts THEY want, loving a variety of music and respecting that freedom of choice in others can only lead to a more tolerant planet.... Amen! Thanks Hannah - I love your blog and I'm especially inspired today. Even though I joke with boy and infer that a manual will give me some clues because becoming a parent does NOT make you an expert (I wish) in fact it gives me even more to question and challenges me everyday on matters of respect, boundaries and ... if it's possible... unconditional love. I know that when my parents looked at me without any preconceived notions of what I should be... That's when I really felt I could fly!xx PS - Lucky little bub you're having... such intuitive and free thinking parents!!

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  9. I love this post. I'm not a parent and don't expect to be any time soon, but I do know I would approach this the same way. A lot of friends with babies did the same - but I've been surprised by the few who really wanted to know the gender because they wouldn't "know what colour to paint the nursery" otherwise; it wasn't any of the people I would have expected to feel that way.

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  10. i didn't find out with my two, people would generally comment my son was "pretty" cos he wore a lot of his sisters hand me downs. I think you are SO right to point out it comes down to more than pink/blue though, its attitude, I knew someone who was going to raise her daughter to not like "girly' stuff, wear pink etc …. well you can imagine how that turned out, at six kid is a Pink Princess fiend !! lol kids have a lovely way of not conforming to their parents great plans. We live similarly to you, my husband does all the cooking even if he's been working all day, the kids have seen us chop and change roles as it were. The kids are all pretty comfortable in their own skin and extremely open minded so it wasn't all fail lol

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  11. I hope to also not find out if and when the time comes, and I think I might end up sending people who want to know why to this post, if I may? I think your argument is good and your openness to whatever happens. All the best!

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  12. A wonderful post! I absolutely agree with you, people can be so constrained by 'norms' and stereotypes.

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  13. Love this post. I'll be doing the same when/if my husband and I have children. I've been to a few baby showers lately and it's surprised me just how difficult it is to buy gender neutral clothing. I can't stand bubblegum pink, so having a daughter would be a challenge!

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  14. Have a little daughter, expecting child no 2 this summer. Do not want to know gender in advance, they are babies! They have pretty basic needs whatever gender. And I love to dress my girl in a sweet vintage dress now and then, and she is a sweet little shy girl. And everyone who knows she's a girl tell us what a typical girl she is, the face, her behaviour... And constantly strangers say what a cute boy she is, cause she's mostly in jeans and a sweater, sometimes red, sometimes striped or blue or... And her hair is still thin and rathershort. And she plays mostly with cars and puzzles and building blocks, though I have sewn dolls for her... I never push any toys on her though.

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  15. Great Post! It seems so hard these days to find gender neutral baby clothes- as I child I mainly wore dungaree's and wellingtons, dresses being for only special ocassions. Seems things have gone to far now and children either have to be in blue or pink.

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  16. I was talking with my mum about this a couple of days ago when an old friend told us that she was pregnant. Mum said that she didn't get the option of knowing back then, but she *knew* I was going to be a girl. She just felt it. I think the best thing about that is that my dad, instead of going "er, you're a nutter" said "oh, ok then, girl it is" like she'd decided she wanted a lasagne instead of spag bol.
    I think if I have children, I'll want to know. I'm the kind of person that looks forward to something by imagining it happening. Sounds strange, but there you go. I read all the guide books before I go on holiday, as that's the exciting bit for me - the planning and preparation. I think I'd avoid the blue-or-pink (I prefer yellow anyway) though, mostly because I don't like glitter and diamante on small children.
    With regards to the gender-compliments. As a non-parent who isn't entirely convinced by under-3s, I struggle to know what to say to parents that will tell them that their child is cuter than I think it is. I don't think that saying "she's pretty" just because the baby is wearing pink is necessarily a bad thing. It sounds a lot better than "It" to me. I think it's more about people trying to please, be polite and supportive. Surely that is a nice and friendly thing rather than a negative based on a gender stereotype?

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  17. Brilliant post Hannah! :) I totally agree that it's one of the few things in life that is a genuine surprise... and I love the idea of waiting to see. (When friends have waited, it's been so thrilling finding out when that call comes... more mysterious somehow?) As the to the pink/blue thing, yeah it's weird... and you're right I called my friend's boy strong the other day (which was fine) and then called my niece strong (she is for a 1 year old!) and got some rather disapproving looks from the MIL. Weird huh?

    P.S. 'Pop Day' is just brilliant too! ;)

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  18. I didn't find out the sex either, and collected an array of clothing in various colours of the rainbow (just not pink). We had a girl, and she now has a nice array of blue clothing, which I think is totally acceptable for a girl to wear. When we go out and strangers coo over her (something I wasn't expecting, but really, everywhere you go people will want to have a look at your baby - it freaked me out at first but now I guess it's kind of nice) people would assume, because she wasn't wearing pink that she was a boy. Even in "gender neutral" colours like cream, she would still get mistaken for a boy. Which really really annoys me. I also now have a dilemma in that my sister gave me the biggest binbag full of clothing handed down from my niece. Every single item a shade of pink. I am exceptionally grateful for it, and don't want it to go to waste but at the same time do not want to dress her in pink. So not sure what to do with it all!

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  19. I often have trouble trying to articulate these kind of things about gender, but I think you've put it very well here!

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  20. SUch a great post and it is really true about baby clothes/toy shops - I cannot believe how traditional people are! Great topic for IWD and I love the idea of your multi-skilled family! x

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  21. I completely agree with you. People tell me knowing their baby's sex before it's born helps them bond with it. I don't buy that. I think it might help you create an imaginary personality based on stereotypes, but it doesn't mean you know that little person any better than someone who doesn't know what sex their baby is yet. When people asked if we wanted a boy or a girl we just used to say 'Oh we don't care...as long as it's a genius.'

    And I hate the clothes divided into boys' and girls' sections. Ridiculous and sexist. Clothes are clothes and colours belong to everyone. We also, whenever we found ourselves calling our daughter 'Princess', made an effort to change it to 'Prime Minister'.

    Great post, thanks for articulating my thoughts for me!

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